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« on: Jun 27th, 2013, 5:56pm »
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Getting a new 1858 Remington replica.(Pietta, from Cabelas) Can't decide which one. short barrel, long barrel, rear sight, no rear sight. Gotta make up my mind quick.  
 
Any input? Probably won't alter my decision, just curious what others think.
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Re: '58 Remmie
« Reply #1 on: Jun 28th, 2013, 12:05am »
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NO Rear sight?? Which model is that? The rear sight on some of those cap and ball revolvers was a notch in the hammer cup that sits high enough when cocked, to allow for a sight notch. Now, the 1858 Remington revolver has a top strap and the rear sight can be incorporated in the rear of the strap. Thats the way the originals were made. The Colts, without the top strap were sighted through a notch in the hammer, with a few models with a dovetailed rear sight just above and ahead of the forcing cone on the barrel. Some of those were gunsmith modifications, after delivery.  
I hope you plan on hitting what you are aiming at Cheesy! Course, if yer shooting blanks in a parade, it dont make any difference!
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Re: '58 Remmie
« Reply #2 on: Jun 28th, 2013, 12:11am »
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I have to say, it looks good!
https://www.google.com/search?q=Pietta+1858+Remington&client=safari& amp;rls= en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=tAvNUergBer7yAGT7oDwBw&ved=0CD8QsA Q&biw=1422&bih=876
The barrel length is dependant on your needs. Looks like a good selection. Are you going to get a Cartridge conversion cylinder for it?
I used to have an 1860 Army Colt copy and an original 1858 Remington, many years ago. Today, I would prefer the Ruger black powder revolver. Unfortunately, I dont believe they are made anymore. Course, you may find a used one?
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« Reply #3 on: Jun 30th, 2013, 7:17pm »
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I'd love to get the Ruger, but I think I'll dip my toe in the Cap-N-Ball world with just a couple hundred bucks before I dive in. I had a ruger picked out, but we're talking more like $650. Minimum. I'll probably get the 8 inch with no rear blade site. That'll leave penty left over for the accessories. That's the fun stuff anyway!!
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Re: '58 Remmie
« Reply #4 on: Jul 2nd, 2013, 12:33pm »
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Neat.  What will be your primary uses?
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« Reply #5 on: Jul 2nd, 2013, 3:45pm »
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Mostly just backyard fun, but I will small game hunt with it. I'll also consider deer after I practice and feel confident. I will definitely stay within bow range, 30-40 yards. You hear both sides on the net about the effectiveness of these replicas for deer sized game. We all know that a 22 in capable hands will put a deer down, so there you have it.  
 
Not trying to start a fight or even a discussion for that matter. Just my opinion.  
 
 
Should be a great learning tool and a hell of a lot of fun. We'll see!!
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« Reply #6 on: Jul 2nd, 2013, 4:15pm »
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Thad, just make sure you top off each chambered ball with a wad of grease/crisco/beeswax-petroleum jelly mix or other thick lube to prevent leading and flashover!
I dont know if you have ever loaded and shot a cap-n-ball resolver? Also, if you carry it loaded? You can load all 6 chambers and set the hammer down between nipples, on the cylinder. Never on a percussion capped nipple!
Or carry it with one chamber empty! Just so you know! That soft lead ball will hurt you as bad as a hollow point out of a similar sized modern firearm, in case of an accidental discharge! The important parts are safety and having fun!
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« Reply #7 on: Jul 2nd, 2013, 4:26pm »
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Thanks for the info. I have heard that stuff, but I've never had one loaded in my hands, so it doesn't hurt to hear it a couple hundred more times! If it keeps me safe it's worth it.
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« Reply #8 on: Jul 10th, 2013, 1:36pm »
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going to pick one up Saturday for sure. I've settled on the 8 inch with no rear blade sight. If I want to keep going with the cap-n-ball pistols, I'll be getting the Ruger Old Army. and a conversion cylinder just for kicks, probably loaded with black, again, just for kicks and the cool smoke effect
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« Reply #9 on: Mar 12th, 2014, 10:28am »
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Since the last post I've had the Remmie a little while. It's fun to shoot. My oldest son (11) shoots it just fine also. I'm going to mke up some DIY lube pills I've seen described on other forums. I still need to work up a load for accurate shooting. For now I was just slinging lead all over the place to get the feel of the mechanics. I'm going to try to focus my attention this summer on handgun shooting. This will give me a cheap alternative and a break from the 7-08 encore pistol.
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« Reply #10 on: Sep 19th, 2014, 10:49pm »
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started playing with loads for the remmie. I got some corn meal for filler and boy what a difference it makes. Just shooting 20 gr of powder for now. it leaves quite a bit of cylinder open after compressing the ball. It's amazing how much the loose powder compacts. Still haven't made the DIY lube pills, although it's still in the works. I use plenty of bore butter type lube. I haven't had any issues with fouling. The gun cleans up pretty good. I might be suffering from a little OCD. I take the thing apart until there are no more parts to take off. Every time. I just can't leave it alone. I've read where a lot of guys swab the barrel and cylinder, then wipe th exterior off a bit and thats it. I couldn't do i. I just knew it was dirty underneath this or that and by the time I put it away, it's been completey broken down and put back together.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Oh well, part of it i guess.
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Re: '58 Remmie
« Reply #11 on: Mar 29th, 2015, 8:48pm »
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So I don't shoot this little beauty nearly as much as I'd like to. The cleaning definitely makes me think before it comes out. I did however play with it enough to come up with a deer load. Yes, a very close range deer load, but I brought it hunting while I escorted my 12 year old. I had a doe come by at about 3 yards, but it caught us off guard. It was real wet, so the ground was silent. We weren't paying that close attention and of course, a big ol' doe comes trottin' by. (we were sitting on the ground) I don't know who was more surprised, her or us!! Anyway, coulda-woulda-shoulda, but I didn't.  Roll Eyes
 
My boy did get the button buck that was about 35 seconds behind her though  Cool
 
So the load ended up being 35 grains of 777 loose, lubed felt wad, .454 round ball    
Someday I still plan on making lube pills from bees wax and paraffin, and one of those will end up in the cylinder also. More shooting is needed of course. Cheesy
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